他们说：决定食物味道的是厨师，炊具只起小作用

照片中仿佛飘出了糕饼的香气 ～～～

当下摄影的“利器”都是手机了…
传统的…被多数人鄙视了……

补充：但我个人还是喜欢胶片，
看不上那些几千万像素的手机…… 本帖最后由 蛮猴 于 2019-12-19 19:31 编辑

镜头好看

x700机身完全是浓浓的塑料味，xd 充满了高级感，尤其是那取景器，双优不说了-当然，都是好机器

XD7(s）应该明显好过X700，为什么不喜欢

“器材”应该能出作品，买了不用，不想用，用的不好，问题都出在人身上啊。

多试试就知道谁是样子货了。 本帖最后由 KNDETIE 于 2019-12-16 10:27 编辑

Cameras Shouldn't Dictate Self-Esteem

相机如此，汽车何尝不是呢？
相机粉丝如此，汽车粉丝何尝不是呢？

引用如下

Cameras Shouldn't Dictate Self-Esteem

One thing that becomes obvious very quickly when reading various comments across the Internet (or in my In Box), is that there's a very large proportion of active participants that have linked their self-esteem to their camera brand (or model, or type).

Indicators of this are comments about how well a product is (or isn't selling) relative to others, the superiority of one approach to another, minor differences in some measurement, and so on.

We've been in a land of plenty for quite some time. I first wrote the "if you can't get good prints the maximum size of a desktop inkjet with any current camera it's not the camera that's at fault" comment over a decade ago. It's absolutely true today.

More often than not the "X is best" type of comments I see have nothing to do with actual picture results. Instead, they're attempts to justify a purchase, or a choice of model, or a brand choice.

I've been spending a lot of time lately working through my older images, trying to get my file system cleaned up and realigned, partly because I need to make it easier to find specific example images for a project I'm working on. In looking at all these older images—many from cameras whose output won't fill my 5K Retina iMac screen at 100%—I'm finding that my basic assessment of most older models was pretty much right on the money with the benefit of hindsight. I can see small differences that could impact how I use an image, particularly in the pre-2007 or so cameras.

For example, in the D70 line of Nikon's—D70, D70s, D80, D90, D7000, D7100, D7200, D7500—I can now clearly see that the D80 and the D7000 were the weak links (because of sensor and focus, respectively), while the D70, D90, and D7200 were the strongest contenders. (The D7500 is the current model, so almost by definition the strongest contender.)

Overall, though, I keep finding that many images I thought might not hold up because of lack of pixels or older sensor technologies actually do. Sure, I have to use noise reduction more aggressively on the old D80 images, and I have to find nuanced ways to sharpen the D1x images (the pixels weren't square), but I keep coming up with usable results.

But here's a doozy for you: running old Coolpix 995 JPEG images from 2001 through Topax JPEG to RAW AI and AI Gigapixel, I find that I can create really good looking images that fill that iMac 5K display from my original 3mp files (I've processed this image to look dark and gloomy, because on that early February day it was exactly that).

The biggest issue with the original pixels I used from that Coolpix was that there was significant chromatic aberration, which I've had to address in post processing. But surprisingly, the noise was easy to deal with, and even the near highlight blowout on the fountains was able to be pulled back. Acuity from that old built-in lens seems good once addressed with a deconvolution sharpener.

Do I want more pixels now that I have 45mp? Yes. I'd like to see us get another 15-20% step up, which would put us somewhere near 70mp in full frame.

Do I want more dynamic range? Yes. I'd love to have something near the theoretical limit (with non-spillover wells), which would put me near a two-stop gain from where my cameras currently are.

Do I want more acuity away from the center of my lenses? Absolutely. Working on an image that has excellent acuity corner to corner as opposed to only in a central region means that I don't tend to snip a bit of a crop here and there to avoid noticeable corner smear.

Do I want better ergonomics? Yes. Particularly with some brands, but I can find UX issues with virtually all the products these days.

But none of these things I just mentioned have anything at all to do with my own personal self-esteem. I actually don't care which camera or brand you purchase (or I use) as long as it's the correct decision for you (or me). I'm well aware that my choice may not be your choice, and vice versa. All those folk arguing on the Internet about "X is best" tend to not only ignore that, but most of the time they're making that argument to defend their choice. In other words, they don't hold their choice in high esteem in the first place.

We're in a world of excellent photographic tools these days. Proper technique and care in composing with virtually all the mid-range and up gear should net you fantastic photos. Never forget that.

Jun 9, 2019 at 8:42 AM

灯光和明暗控制，很有感

摄影器材根本目的是拍照，因此只要快门准确，光圈收放准确到位就可以了。

胶卷时代，我主要用美能达相机，x700是最钟爱的，还有xd7和xg-m。尼康FA，FM2用得比较少，尼康的知名度很高，但是实际使用中缺少手柄，手握感不好，分量重。

数码时代是佳能30D很长时间，这部相机还在，用的比较少了。数码单反相机希望有一个轻巧的机身，较高的可用像数，比如1600iso有很强的实用性。快门连拍能达到每秒5张。其他都无所谓了。目前主要使用索尼的NEX6。数码相机之前使用佳能的G12，够用。

照片是胶片时代海鸥和腾龙70-210，乐凯400定胶卷。

原来这段话是滤镜兄的原创啊
我咋说在哪儿看到过几次呢

冒泡还是潜水，这是一个问题。

汽车毕竟深度玩得不多。就自己玩过的不同类型的相机及其镜头的体验，反复印证着首贴的感悟。一是任何器材都各有风格、各有长短；二是任何器材都有一定的需求针对性，你之蜂蜜他之毒药。

任何一个（套）相机和镜头，很长时间不碰，再拿出来开拍，仿佛患了老年痴呆症一般，许多常用的功能一时找不到了，拍摄时那种人机合一的感觉也忽然失去了，需要好一阵子磨合才能找回一些当初磨合到最佳状态的感受。同时，换一种（套）器材，拍摄习惯有说不出的细微差异，成像风格也各有千秋，常常带来一些美好回忆和惊喜。

器材之争，既是很有趣的事，也是最无聊的事。—— 有趣还是无聊，其实不取决于器材本身的差异和长短，而取决于遇上的人。

解决之道：MT和AT各买一辆，轮换着开。

这样，既不会自己笑话自己弱智低能，也不会自己笑话自己穷酸了。

记得以前也和 kemmi 兄等一起探讨过怎样聊器材。kemmi 兄有句话，我印象很深：“不知道，不能乱说；知道了，更不能乱说”。

又要说，又不能乱说，确实很考人的。

我个人是不“鼓励”单纯低调玩潜水的。当然，像我这样“口水多过茶”也不太好。

是的
大家都容易唯心主义，因为我们坚持认为自己当初选择是最正确的。

应了一句话  实践才是检验真理的惟一标准

本帖最后由 大吃四方 于 2012-10-27 21:02 编辑

自己选择的东西, 肯定在购买之前进行了分析, 认为是最适合自己的.