50 1.2 f1.2

58 1.2的 f1.2

曝光可以，对焦准度还差点！这镜头需要人机磨合

带着灰卡，
又照了一下

点测光和机器显示屏的实际画面差好多，显示屏看着不错，差了三格，z9白天还没怎么用，还不太熟悉。。。

峰值对焦对上了，可能是有风，明天有空再试试

镜头是看了这个贴，看几位大师玩的不亦乐乎，眼馋的很，正好z9有峰值和放大对焦，上午刚刚淘到手的，但愿不是镜头的问题，魔魔 编辑于 2022-10-01 15:12

5.8mm1.4的，同位置上午11点，阴天。。。。58noct那个是天马上黑了照的

f4

f4

f4

1.2 好像没对上
魔魔 编辑于 2022-10-01 13:10

5.8 摸索中

瞎拍

看到一个帖子，老外测试的5.8/1.4，跟58G和50/1.4G头还有58/1.2夜神对比的片子，六十多年前的古董依然宝刀不老！我自己勉强看明白，没法翻译，大家自己看吧！

https://www_kenrockwell_com/nikon/58mm-f14.htm

The Nikon F 58mm f/1.4 is Nikon's first f/1.4 SLR lens made from 1959 through 1962. This sample was made in 1961.

Nikon invented the world's first 50mm f/1.4 lens in 1950 for Nikon's rangefinder cameras. The rangefinder lens wouldn't work on the new Nikon F SLR camera because the back of the lens would be too close to clear the reflex mirror of an SLR, so Nikon increased the focal length so the back of the lens would clear the flipping reflex mirror. It wasn't until 1962 that Nikon was able to design a 50mm f/1.4 lens to work on its SLRs.

This lens was good enough to help Nikon win the 35mm market away from LEICA, who ruled the roost when Nikon introduced its F system in 1959. Of course ten years later by 1969, Nikon had completely beaten LEICA. LEICA survives today only as a rich man's toy; LEICA hasn't been about photography ever since the Nikon F beat it out of the market. Of course Nikon introduced an improved 50mm f/1.4 in 1962, so I won't credit this lens entirely with beating LEICA.

In its day, its focal length was marked as f = 5.8 cm, which is the same as 58mm.

This 58mm f/1.4 has nothing to do with the Nikon 58mm f/1.2 Noct-NIKKOR of 1977-1997.



Compatibility       intro     top

This was never an AI or AI-s lens. As shipped, it only works with Nikon's SLRs made from 1959~1976.

Most of these lenses have been AI updated, and if they are, work perfectly with almost all FX and 35mm cameras.

If AI updated, works flawlessly with every manual focus Nikon ever made, from the original Nikon F of 1959 through the FM3a and today's FM-10.

If AI updated, on the D4, D800, D800E, D600, D3X, D3s, D3, D7000, D700, D300, D200, D2 and F6, use the "Non-CPU Lens Data" menu option to set 58mm and f/1.4 to get full color matrix metering, EXIF data and finder read-out of set aperture. It works great in aperture-preferred as well as manual modes on these cameras.

If AI updated, works perfectly on every professional 35mm camera (F, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6), and adds Matrix metering on the F6.

The meters of cheaper digital (D90, D5100 and below) and cheaper film cameras (N80 and below) will not couple (or work at all) with this lens at all, so you'll be on your own guessing exposure using the rear LCD or an external meter, or get a tiny Gossen Digisix meter and hotshoe adapter, or the free Pocket Light Meter app to meter manually.

See Nikon Lens Compatibility for details on your camera. Read down the "AII Converted" column for this lens, presuming it's been AI-updated.

If it's still in its original F-mount form, then read the Pre-AI column, and it won't mount on most cameras made since 1977.



Production        intro       top

Nikon made about 40,000 of these 58mm f/1.4 lenses.



Nikon 58mm f/1.4

Nikon 58mm f/1.4 F. enlarge.



Specifications         top

Intro    Specifications    Performance   Recommendations

Name

Nikon calls this the Nikon F NIKKOR-S 5.8 cm f/1.4.

"F" is Nikon's letter brand for its SLR cameras.

NIKKOR is Nikon's brand name for its better lenses.

-S means "sept," or seven elements.

5.8 cm is the focal length, equal to 58mm.



Optics            top

7 elements in 6 groups.

It's single coated in amber and blue.



Diaphragm            top

Nikon 58mm f/1.4

Nikon 58mm f/1.4 at f/5.6. enlarge.

6 straight blades.

Stops down to f/16.



Aperture Ring            top

Yes.

Metal.

Full-stop clicks.



Close Focus            top

2 feet.

0.6 meters.



Maximum Reproduction Ratio            top

1:8.4



Angle of View        top

40.8° diagonal on FX and 35mm.

27° diagonal on small-format DX.



Focal Length        top

58mm.

On a small-format DX camera, this lens sees an angle-of-view similar to what an 88mm lens would see on a full-frame camera.



Hard Infinity Focus Stop?            top

Yes.

This is great for astronomy; just turn to the stop and you have fixed laboratory-perfect focus all night.



Focus Scale            top

Yes.



Depth-of-Field Scale            top

Yes.

Color-coded lines correspond to each aperture.



Infra-Red Focus Index            top

Yes: red dot in depth-of-field scale.



Filter Thread            top

52mm, metal.

Does not rotate.



Size            top

Nikon specifies 1.87" (47.5mm) extension from flange (2.35"/59.8mm overall) by 2.64" (67mm) diameter.



Weight            top

Nikon specifies 12.35 oz. (350g).



Hood            top

HS-1 metal snap-in.

HS-7 works, too.



Case            top

CL- 6 Corinthian leather case.

Also #51 or CP-1 plastic bubble.



Quality         top

Made in Japan.



Teleconverters            top

TC-200/201.



Performance       top

Intro    Specifications    Performance   Recommendations

Overall   Focus    Coma    Distortion   Ergonomics   Falloff

Filters   Focus Breathing  Ghosts   Color Fringes    Mechanics

Sharpness   Sunstars



Overall      performance     top

The Nikon 58mm f/1.4 is softer and less contrasty at f/1.4 than the newest lenses, but stopped down where we usually use it, it's about as good as Nikon's newest lens designs. The only things that really change over the decades are that Nikon learns to make lenses more cheaply and add fluff features like autofocus; the core optics don't change much.



Focus      performance     top

Manual focus is perfect.

Focus is as smooth as silk, relatively undamped and has no play.

Manual focus is flawless, both with a real camera like the Nikon F3, or with the three-way ( " > o < " ) manual focus indicators on newer cameras like the D4, D600, D800, D800E, D3X, D3s, D3, D700, F4, F5, F6 and most professional AF cameras.

Lesser digital cameras, like the D300s and down, usually have just one "OK" focus dot, which is not as precise as two arrows and a dot.



Coma      performance     top

Coma is weird smeared blobs that appear around bright points of light in the corners. They happen with fast and wide lenses at large apertures. Coma goes away as stopped down, and tends not to be seen in slower and tele lenses. Coma is an artifact of spherical aberration.

This lens is loaded with coma at large apertures.

See also saggital coma flare



Distortion      performance     top

The Nikon 58mm f/1.4 has moderate barrel distortion.

It can be corrected by plugging these figures into Photoshop's lens distortion filter. These aren't facts or specifications, they are the results of my research that requires hours of photography and calculations on the resulting data.
  
FX and 35mm

DX
∞

+2.5

+1
10' (3m)

+2.5


© 2012 KenRockwell_com. All rights reserved.



Ergonomics      performance     top

Nikon 58mm f/1.4

Nikon F 58mm f/1.4. enlarge.

The Nikon 58mm f/1.4's ergonomics are great: you can focus and set aperture with you eyes closed by feel. You can't do that with the plastic wonders of today.

Focus flicks with one fingertip.



Falloff (darkened corners)          performance     top

Falloff on FX is as expected: some falloff at f/1.4, less at f/2, and all gone by f/2.8.

It won't be an issue at all on DX (see crop factor).



Filters, Use with      performance     top

There is no problem with vignetting, even with a thick rotating filter.

There's no need for newfangled "thin" filters.



Flare and Ghosts      performance     top

Pointed at the sun, there can be some overall blue haze. It's not a problem unless you ask for it by pointing your camera at the sun:

Flare 30 July 2012

Flare pointed at the sun. D800E, ISO 100, f/8 at 1/500.



Focus Breathing       performance     top

Of interest mostly to cinematographers focusing back and forth between two subjects, the image from the Nikon 58mm f/1.4 AF-S gets larger as focused more closely.

It's a conventional unit-focusing lens, so no surprises here.



Lateral Color Fringes      performance     top

There are no lateral color fringes on the D3, which will correct them if the lens has any.



Mechanics      performance     top

Nikon 58mm f/1.4

Nikon 58mm f/1.4 F. enlarge.

Like all Nikkor manual focus lenses, the Nikon NIKKOR 58mm f/1.4 is built to the highest mechanical standards of any lens ever made.



Barrel Exterior

Anodized and enameled aluminum (black) and chromed brass (silver).



Filter Threads

Chromed brass.



Hood

Anodized aluminum.



Focus Ring

Anodized and enameled aluminum.



Focus Helicoids

Brass: smooth and silky with no play or need for damping grease.



Depth-of-Field Scale

Engraved into barrel and filled with different colors of paint.



Internals

All metal.



Aperture Ring

Cast aluminum, anodized and enameled.

Engraved markings filled with different colors of paint coded to the depth-of-field scale.



Automatic Aperture-Coupling Prong

Solid chromed, machined brass.



Mount

Dull-chromed brass.



Markings

Engraved into the metal and filled with paint.



Identity and Serial Number

On the front of the lens, inside the filter ring, engraved into the metal and filled with paint.



Moisture Seal at Mount

No.



Noises When Shaken

Mild clicking from the diaphragm blades and actuation system.



Made in

Japan.



Sharpness      performance     top

Fabric 30 July 2012

Fabric. Nikon D800E, f/8 at 1/250 at Auto ISO 100, Matrix meter, VIVID Picture Control at +3 Saturation, 6 Sharpening, Auto White Balance adjusted to A3 M1.) Original file.

At macro ranges, it's very sharp stopped down, but less so in the corners.

Like most f/1.4 lenses of its era, it has a curved field, especially up close. The corners could be sharper if the subject was curved.



Katie gets ready

Getting ready. Nikon D800E, SB-400 flash, f/8 at 1/125 at Auto ISO 160, Matrix meter, STANDARD Picture Control at +1 Saturation, 6 Sharpening, Auto White Balance adjusted to A3 M1.) bigger or Original file.

For actual use, it's the same as every other lens.



Warning 1: Image sharpness depends more on you than your lens.

Warning 2: Lens sharpness doesn't mean much to good photographers.



With those caveats, the 58mm f/1.4 F is soft at f/1.4, and sharp at smaller apertures.



At f/1.4

The 58mm f/1.4 is very soft throughout most of the image at f/1.4.



At f/2

It's a little better at f/2, but still very soft throughout most of the image.



At f/2.8

It's greatly improved at f/2.8.

Most of the image is super-sharp, but it's still blurrier on the sides.



At f/4

Most of the image is super-sharp, and the sides are much better than at f/2.8 - but still a little blurry.



At f/5.6

Most of the image is super-sharp, and the sides are somewhat better than at f/4 - but still a little blurry.



At f/8

Almost all of the image is super-sharp, with the farthest corners still a bit softer.

This is the optimum aperture for most of the image.



At f/11

The corners get a little sharper, while most of the image is a little softer due to diffraction.



At f/16

The corners are the sharpest, while there rest of the image is softer due to diffraction.



Sunstars      performance     top

With its straight 6-bladed diaphragm, the 58mm f/1.4 makes boring 6-pointed sunstars on bright points of light.



Recommendations       top

Intro    Specifications    Performance   Recommendations

The Nikon 58 1.4 has optics good enough to create astounding images, but it is Nikon's weakest normal lens. Each newer version of 50mm f/1.4 lens is progressively sharper at f/1.4, although they're all pretty much the same at f/8.

I wouldn't go out of my way looking for one of these, but if you have one, you'll make images as good as with any other lens.

The price seems to be too high; fueled I suspect more by collectors than actual photographers. If you're a photographer, the 50mm f/1.4 AI and 50mm f/1.4 AI-s are much, much better, and sell for the same price.



Deployment      top

I'd pitch the flat Nikon cap that came with this lens new, and get a new "pinch" type cap. I'm not kidding: the new fatter caps are much easier to use in the field.

I'd leave either a 52mm Nikon Clear (NC - UV) filter, or a 52mm Hoya Super HMC UV on the lens at all times. I would leave the hood at home.

If I was working in nasty, dirty areas, I'd forget the cap, and use an uncoated 52mm Tiffen UV filter instead. Uncoated filters are much easier to clean, but more prone to ghosting.

For color slides like Velvia 50, I use an old Nikon A2 or new 52mm Hoya HMC 81A outdoors.

For B&W film outdoors, I'd use an old Nikon Y48 or O56, or a new 52mm Hoya HMC K2 Yellow or 52mm Hoya HMC Orange.



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