国行的话，低价中的低价

有些二手镜也要这价位了

基本上自己不会购进的就是10x32规格

貌似这个规格是一些自然观察家比较中意的

普通用户买得少

有时候这个规格的产品网上促销打折力度会比较大

轴松最常见，买过几次，最终都没留住，不是出了就是送人了，感觉虽然便宜，还不如买个贵点的

胜途8*20其实性价比不错，质量一般，常有小问题……我随身携带一个打粗用

这些只能算中端或中端偏上一点吧，到不了高端L
除了leupold没接触过，其他都有或者有亲戚，我有的：Viper832，KOWA XD832，leica 832BA，zeiss 842HD，nikon 842HG

上次我网上买的贴牌平场镜很好，性价比高，后来又买了一个……不知是不是和楼主同一家买的……

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原来如此，多谢指点

你看一下圣徒820的物镜筒就知道为啥了，如果手里有，对比一下10x25的镜筒。

模具一样的，一个厂出的。镀膜不一样。

网上查Hawke 8X25 Sapphire ED。

欧洲卖得贵。

评价还是很高的，和我的感觉差不多。
I purchased a pair of 8x25 Sapphire ED's in Paris for 300 Euros. I know this is a lot more than they are available for on-line but the store let me compare them with a bunch of others for about an hour before I purchased them, so I figured it was worth it. Compared to the Zeiss Conquest 10x25's there was no contest. The Zeiss's did not have enough eye relief with the eyepiece cups folded down for me to get my eye close enough with my glasses so I compared them without my glasses. The Hawke 10x25's had a sharper, brighter image with more contrast, a wider field of view and they had a much closer minimum focus range. Compared to Minox BD 10x25 the Hawkes were much clearer around the edges, were brighter, and focused closer. Compared with Eshenbach Club10x25's again there was no contest. Comparing the Hawke 8x25's with Leica Ultravid 8x20's I thought that the Leica image possibly had a little more contrast or "pop." but I wasn't sure. The same with the overall clarity and edge clarity--maybe the Leica's were a little better, not absolutely sure. The Hawke's were definitely brighter in low light, focused much closer and had a wider field of view. The Leica's cost over twice the Hawke's. I chose a double hinged binocular so that it would fit in my breast pocket and not flop around on my neck when I was walking. I got 8x instead of 10x because they are much easier to hold steady, have a much wider field of view helping me to find the subject when raising the glasses to my eyes, and because of the greater depth of field which also aids in finding the subject when raising the glasses. I recently traded views with a friend with an older pair of Swarovski EL 10x42's. He immediately said, "Wow, these are pretty good!" which I took as an affirmation of my choice. In good light there appears to be no difference between 8x25's and 8x42's since your pupil closes down to limit the light to your retina. Only in low light situations can you see the difference. 本帖最后由 klipsch2018 于 2018-1-10 17:20 编辑

哪个国产825啊？
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中高端：

vortex viper 832、kowa bd 832（日产）、nikon hgl 832、leupold golden ring hd 832、leica bn 832、zeiss conquest hd 832

价格3-6千不等

我下面提了，已经入手胜途820和特价平场1042，鉴于这种情况，832暂缓 这段只是在与神经兄探讨。
一步到位不是不可以，只是出坑太费劲，沉没成本风险太高谨慎起见，还是从性价比较为均衡的中间点开始。
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外出难道不应该带20或25口径的吗？32也好，42也好，总没有20/25便携，旅游时都不太方便，家附近转转还可以。42口径的重量也就相当于一个微单加镜头。
倍数方面我看到一个说法，说8倍的基本大家都能做得挺好，国产镜质量好的也不会比顶级差到哪里去。10倍镜就只有顶级厂商才能做得好。抛开这个不谈，就出瞳来说，10X25是2.5，10X42是4.2，显然不是一个级别的。当然8X42会更亮。不考虑玻璃和镀膜本身透光率的影响，10X42和8X32亮度在一个级别，8X25和10X32在一个级别，8X20和10X25在一个级别。我觉得倍数越高的镜子要越亮，看起来才不容易难受。
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新款的蔡司我有，4500，应该是最低价了

对舒适度和光学有一定要求

10x32想想还是放弃了

先前手里有只还可以的8x21，还有8x28，买回10x25以后俩镜基本就闲置了

目前唯一感兴趣的8x小镜是蔡司新款的8x25，就是太贵了