映齐100GB做工粗糙还漏油，迴力调整的手感也不好，那个大铁块重死人，最要命的是漏油问题，三两天擦一次，可能不长时间油缸里的油就漏光了，不像个精密的玩意，已经退掉了。

原文由 D1XF90X 在2010-05-27 23:06发表
一起鎖緊比當然是便易貨性價比更高。
但實踐中往往是比不完全鎖緊下的表現，鳥跳來跳去，你鎖緊了根本追不到鳥。
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没缩紧，在阻尼下的拍摄，只是缩紧了大炮的旋转钮，为了测试实战中的应用，516和映齐100GB在1/60S下拍摄，放大100%，没有什么差别。我说的目的，油压云台在使用中比温布利要好，特别是慢门拍摄（1/30s以下)有较为明显的差别。但是油压云台除了价格差距较大外，重量差距也是购买时要考虑的，扛着跑来跑去，多一公斤要重死人的。另一问题是，油压云台是为摄像机装备的，打鸟人在借用，借用中从台湾传来成了流行的武器。问题是购买它还要考虑快装板的问题，打鸟人的大炮不止一支，我就5-6支，而油压云台一种牌子一种快装规格，同样牌子的快装规格也不一样，不像摄像机，只配一机一镜，油压云台随带的快装板就够了。但是打鸟二机5-6支镜头，不能将快装板换来换去，还有替换角的问题要匹配，我已经两套快装系统，每套系统的快装板6-7个。换一只云台就要换一堆快装板。
同意一步到位，直接买最贵萨拿和米勒，但是要考虑到附件的匹配是否好购买和实战使用性。最贵的不一定是最实用的。是否真的在拍摄中（1/60S以上）的成功率会相差20-60%，我是不相信，那是价格的心理感应因素在作怪吧。

这个云台脚架的套装比三个萨拿DV10还贵，估计在60000RMB以上，好东东呀！

纬轩兄，动心否？整一个，估计你就是无忌第一人了！

苦海無邊.

双X老大帮忙看看，如果订不到kirk的替换脚，这个Mestos的替换脚如何？
这个替换脚底部三个孔的分布和Kirk类似，只是上部和镜座连接处没有那个四方形的凸起部分。担心镜座的四个固定螺丝受力增加太多，可能存在镜座丝扣或螺丝滑丝的风险。

http://blog.ecenter.idv.tw/index.php?/archives/31-Manfrotto-519.html

一起鎖緊比當然是便易貨性價比更高。

但實踐中往往是比不完全鎖緊下的表現，鳥跳來跳去，你鎖緊了根本追不到鳥。

你要花些時間搞清每件東西的作用， AP-452/ LCF-13 是同一作用的東西。

只買其中一件啦 .

成像差不多， 328 +1.4 對焦更快點，所以說拍鳥就 328 吧。

nyp127

K版要求的科学严格的测试自然是有的，否則台灣鳥友也不会几乎全都換用成油压式云台來拍鳥
建議在網上搜搜过去台灣鳥友測試的數據文章參考看看
測試也僅是參考，器材是拿來實戰拍片子用的。

映齊和516的迴力調整設定各是几段？兄台分析过或實際操作比較过沒有？
若是有，俺僅能說你沒有好好的去用好映齊云台^^"映齊的迴力調整之精細比沙雀还要好又精準，沙雀勝在於可快速調整罷了，拿516來比这特性还真是污辱了映齊呀！

过去的映齊云台是手工打造且精細調整的專業云台，近年來因產量增大而机械量產后品質開始低落了，也許精度大不如以前的，但也不致於差那麼多的啦

建議分析一下516的結構和映齊的結構及特性參數看看。

NVP兄:

很多想入高級云台, 都會以此處幾位高手留言作參考. 個人同樣注重數據化, 但實際使用經驗亦不可不參考.

想請教閣下對526滿意嗎?

原文由 kemmi 在2010-05-26 18:06发表
友情提醒一下哈：
如果使用油压云台，最好亲自试验一下是否适合于你所用的镜头重量和镜头底座的结构位置等。因为油压听起来是“减震”，但一直没有找到这类油压云台的试验数据。从道理上来说，是否减震或者强化振幅，是和三角架、云台、镜头、快门的震动频率等整体系统有关。有时是减震，有时是强化震动。不能凭想象。
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引用：chihjung
微振的影响應該低於“安全快門”就較為明顯了！这直接影响拍攝的成功机率，自然越低快門越明顯了！
如此假設吧，僅是假設哦！
架856來拍攝，1/500s快門

516成功机率60﹪
526成功机率75﹪
映齊成功机率80﹪
沙雀成功机率90﹪

若用1/125s來拍呢
516成功机率50﹪
526成功机率70﹪
映齊成功机率75﹪
沙雀成功机率85﹪

若再以更低的快門來拍呢？？
516成功机率20﹪
526成功机率60﹪
映齊成功机率65﹪
沙雀成功机率80﹪
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K版和大陈的相悖观点。K要求科学严格的测试，C是凭经验和感觉。
不否认越重、越贵的云台可能越稳定，但是三角架、云台、镜头、快门的震动频率以及微震需要不同的镜头进行严格的对比测试，才能得出正确的结论。
虽没有经过严格的测试，526和映齐100GB重量相差不多：3.6和3.5KG。尼康640在1/60S下拍摄，映齐100GB与516相比，反光板预升，快门线，放大100%，几乎看不出差别。而516自重2.42KG，比映齐100GB轻了1公斤还多。并且迴力調整感觉还不如516，价格便宜了一半。当然526和映齐100GB配碗公碗母，调整平衡方便。516要另外选配。

你不是說訂沙雀嗎？前面不是已說要KIRK替换脚啦嗎？

WH-200 一樣能用的。

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如果需要KIRK替换脚的朋友较多，俺可以从米国批量订购；
但如果就1、2只的需求，运费都划不来了。